Re: The Relevance of Complex Systems [was: Re: Retrenchment]

From: Phil Goetz (
Date: Thu Sep 08 2005 - 17:50:18 MDT

--- Michael Wilson <> wrote:

> Indeed I can quite easily state that no causally chaotic system is
> stable under self-modification, and that all such systems will
> rapidly disintigrate or fall into a causally clean attractor
> on gaining the ability to self-modify. If you don't accept
> that an AGI based on 'Complex Adaptive' low-level mechanisms
> will inevitably fall into a 'non-Complex' attractor, then show
> us such a system that actually works.

Actually, the main value of complex systems studies may be in
informing us that this chaotic regime is where our system is
most productive, and in providing us with the math needed to
keep it from either "disintegrating" into randomness or falling
into a stable point or periodic attractor.

- Phil Goetz

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