RE: The return of the revenge of qualia, part VI.

From: Ben Goertzel (ben@goertzel.org)
Date: Wed Jul 27 2005 - 18:57:17 MDT


Agreed, thanks for the clarification of my wording

ben

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> From: owner-sl4@sl4.org [mailto:owner-sl4@sl4.org]On Behalf Of Russell
> Wallace
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: The return of the revenge of qualia, part VI.
>
>
> On 7/27/05, Ben Goertzel <ben@goertzel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thus, I think that as future science unfolds, even die-hard materialists
> > will have to admit that qualia have at least the same sort of
> "reality" that
> > electrons do.
>
> A small point: I'll suggest you don't mean the same _sort_ of reality,
> but rather something like the same _degree_? After all, electrons and
> qualia are clearly different _sorts_ of things (from the viewpoint in
> which electrons are real, qualia are emergent phenomena at a vastly
> higher level of organization, like hurricanes and food chains; from
> the viewpoint in which qualia are real, electrons are theoretical
> constructs far removed from experience).
>
> - Russell
>



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