Re: META: Singularity Action Group attempting to recruit SL4 members

From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (
Date: Mon Apr 28 2003 - 20:48:58 MDT

Ben Goertzel wrote:
> I certainly don't want to see SAG pick on SL4, SL4 pick on SAG, blah blah
> blah. This kind of "sectarianism" isn't really to anyone's benefit.

Oh, give me a break, Ben. Alan Grimes goes around calling me the rabbi of
the Singularity, and specifically announced that SAG was intended as a
spoiler against the Singularity Institute; Mike Deering thinks my life is
an extended secret plot to infiltrate the most advanced AI projects, steal
their secrets, and take over the world; and Jonathan Standley is
apparently having a psychotic episode or something. SAG is Alan Grimes
and Mike Deering trying to get back at me for being expelled from SL4.
That's all. If you take them seriously, that's your decision, but they
will not hesitate (and are not hesitating) to exploit your reputation for
all it's worth.

I strive to avoid sectarianism between serious groups worth taking
seriously, for example, between ExI and WTA. But I would not wish to see
the WTA extending tolerance to crackpot sects such as Raelianism in the
name of "avoiding sectarianism". The Raelians are crackpots, and so are
Alan Grimes and Mike Deering. I do not consider such to be included in
the community of game-theoretical cooperators among whom tolerance is
necessary. Such is *my* decision; take it as you will.

Eliezer S. Yudkowsky                
Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

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