Re: Real AI

From: Michael Korns (
Date: Wed Jun 20 2001 - 14:38:23 MDT

Ben, Peter,

I visited the site. The "Botson" device was certainly just a surface level chat bot.

How intelligent (i.e.responsive) could Jason get his chat bots? For instance, how responsive, in a domain (say investing), could his chat bots get without really being intelligent?

Most chat bot technology is very brittle even when restricted to a domain of expertise.

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ben Goertzel
  To: ; Michael Korns
  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:38 AM
  Subject: RE: Real AI

  I know that group well; it's a small team, housed in a mansion in Israel,
  headed by my friend (sort of) Jason Hutchens. Jason was a grad student in
  perth when I was a research fellow there. he's a world-class chat bot
  builder, but in my view is not a very serious thinker about cognition,
  pattern recognition, etc. his approach is very behavioral -- he wants to
  make a series of chat bots that will sequentially emulate older and older
  human children, until he gets one that passes the Turing test. He relies
  heavily on statistical, Markov-chain-type learning methods. I like his
  stuff but unless he's undertaken a radical revision of the conceptual
  foundatiosn of his work, I think it's very unlikely he'll build a system
  with much real intelligence.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: []On Behalf
> Of Peter Voss
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:55 AM
> To:; Michael Korns
> Subject: Real AI
> Somebody else is trying to do Real AI:
> It's worth looking at.
> - Any and all feedback welcome:

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