From: Ben Goertzel (ben@webmind.com)
Date: Wed Jun 20 2001 - 12:53:30 MDT
I don't think that Jason's current approach will ever lead to a system that
can pass the Turing test.
However, I add that he's a very smart guy, and through iterative
modifications of his approach, he may arrive at something more powerful,
given time.
ben
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sl4@sysopmind.com [mailto:owner-sl4@sysopmind.com]On Behalf
> Of Mark Walker
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:47 PM
> To: sl4@sysopmind.com
> Subject: Re: Real AI
>
>
> Ben:
> Are you saying that you don't think this system could in
> principle pass the
> Turing test, or that even if it does this is not sufficient to claim real
> intelligence?
> Mark.
> >
> > I know that group well; it's a small team, housed in a mansion
> in Israel,
> > headed by my friend (sort of) Jason Hutchens. Jason was a grad
> student in
> > perth when I was a research fellow there. he's a world-class chat bot
> > builder, but in my view is not a very serious thinker about cognition,
> > pattern recognition, etc. his approach is very behavioral --
> he wants to
> > make a series of chat bots that will sequentially emulate older
> and older
> > human children, until he gets one that passes the Turing test.
> He relies
> > heavily on statistical, Markov-chain-type learning methods. I like his
> > stuff but unless he's undertaken a radical revision of the conceptual
> > foundatiosn of his work, I think it's very unlikely he'll build a system
> > with much real intelligence.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-sl4@sysopmind.com
[mailto:owner-sl4@sysopmind.com]On Behalf
> > Of Peter Voss
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:55 AM
> > To: sl4@sysopmind.com; Michael Korns
> > Subject: Real AI
> >
> >
> > Somebody else is trying to do Real AI: http://www.a-i.com/
> >
> > It's worth looking at.
> >
> > www.optimal.org - Any and all feedback welcome: peter@optimal.org
> >
> >
>
>
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