RE: Ben's "Extropian Creed"

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Mon Nov 13 2000 - 22:36:59 MST


I admit that we're all way out of our depth in speculating about what's
going to happen after
the Singularity... maybe my reasoning based on biological life is wrong, but
it's the best guide
we have... my intuition is that it's a better guide than the kind of Utopian
arguments you're presenting,
but hey, what's my intuition or yours worth here, we're both just bags of
meat ("just another soul trapped
in a body" as Jack Kerouac said...)

> It's quite possible that the Citizens will be capable of trading
> computational
> resources back and forth, but hopefully some "minimal living space"
> requirement will be enforced... possibly as a restriction upon the trading
> activities of the Citizens who exist, but certainly before a
> Child Citizen is
> created. (The ethical rationale for placing this restriction on trading
> activities would be that it represents an irrevocable harm to any future
> versions of the Citizen's self, which may have changed their minds, or may
> even be changed so much as to be different entities.)

Well, what you're suggesting here is basically a democratic socialist
universe ... which seems to me quite anti-libertarian. Isn't it restricting
someone's freedom to tell them they can't bet all their computational
resources on
a horse race? Isn't this immoral, according to the strict libertarian


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