Re: [sl4] Complete drivel on this list: was: I am a Singularitian who does not believe in the Singularity.

From: John K Clark (
Date: Tue Oct 13 2009 - 00:16:15 MDT

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:02:45 +0100, "Mu In Taiwan"
<> said:

> > I could be wrong but I don't believe the the Mac has a true random
> > number generator, just pseudo random

> You are wrong, and you could have checked your facts even by using
> Wikipedia for about 30 seconds, rather than continuing to spew your junk claims out
> all over the mailing list.
> " In Unix-like <> operating
> systems<>
> , */dev/random* is a special
> file<> that
> serves as a true random number
> generator<> or
> as a pseudorandom number

Well that's jim dandy, but I don't give a hoot in hell what Unix says,
it can't produce true random numbers either. None of the stuff listed
above says the Mac has a hardware random number generator. I know that a
few years ago INTEL included a true random number generator in one of
its chip sets, but it was slow and they discontinued it. Perhaps the Mac
does have such a separate gadget nowadays, I don't know nor do I much

> I therefore challenge your "Jupiter Brain" to a game of
> stone-paper-scissors, armed with my random number generator.

What is your point, that a Jupiter brain couldn't incorporate a 2$
random number generatot if it wanted?

 John K Clark

  John K Clark
-- - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an
                          unladen european swallow

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