Re: [sl4] FAI development within academia.

From: J. Andrew Rogers (
Date: Mon Feb 23 2009 - 13:41:14 MST

On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:37 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Roko Mijic <> wrote:
>> One way to hasten the development of FAI is for me to seek to do
>> research within academia. A disadvantage of this strategy is that
>> academia is an open community, and anyone can potentially look at the
>> results that the field is producing and use them to create uFAI.
> Unlikely. Nobody can build AI, much less FAI or uFAI. All the top
> people in the field like Yudkowsky, Minsky, and Kurzweil have
> realized the problem is too hard by themselves, so they are not
> actually writing any software. It has to be a global effort.

Dripping with non sequitur and dubious assertion, FTW.

The assertion that nobody can build AI is very weak conjecture; there
is legitimate argument whether some or all of the people you list are
"top people in the field"; there are plenty of other top people in the
field that you failed to list that contradict the argument you are
trying to make, raising the question of sample selection bias; it is
not obvious, at least to me, that the people you list "realized the
problem is too hard by themselves" in any case; nor does it follow
that it has to be a global effort; worse, given that we accept your
first assertion, it does not follow by any reasonable calculus that I
can think of that a "global effort" addresses that assertion.

The quality of argumentation leaves a lot to be desired.


J. Andrew Rogers

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