Re: [sl4] Re: Uploads coming first would be good, right?

From: John K Clark (
Date: Sat Feb 14 2009 - 10:26:37 MST

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 "Krekoski Ross"
<> said:

> We both agree that quantum procedures interact with
> classical procedures all the time.
No we don’t agree on that. If quantum uncertainty and chaos interacted
with computers “all the time” the machines would be useless because even
with identical input you’d get different output all the time; if you
want random output there is no need to go to all the trouble of making
an electronic computer, a roulette wheel will work fine.

Yes there are some complex systems, like the weather, where the flap of
a butterfly’s wings could cause a tornado a year later, but computers
were designed not to be that sensitive or they wouldn’t be much good for
anything; evolution must have done the same thing with our brains of
they wouldn’t be much good either.
>> now even the room must be quantum perfect?!



So even though the being’s senses are too course to see any difference
in the room if there is any difference in the room at all the being will
be different even though he sees no difference, hears no difference,
smells no difference, tastes no difference and feels no different. Now
you really are talking voodoo; and I don’t believe the above reasoning
is why you deduced the two are different, rather you decided the two are
different and then looked for a reason to defend your opinion. I think
it must be so because the reasons you give are so weak they wouldn’t
convince anyone unless they already believed it.
  John K Clark

  John K Clark
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