Re: [sl4] Rolf's gambit revisited

From: John K Clark (
Date: Sat Jan 03 2009 - 22:52:42 MST

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 "Petter Wingren-Rasmussen"
<> said:

> the whole point was to lessen the likelihood of a rogue AI

On mans rogue is another mans freedom fighter.

> destroying humankind, which is pretty far from enslaving it

An AI will be a very different sort of being from us with exotic
motivations we can never hope to understand, and yet you expect him to
place our interests above his own. That is not a friend, that is a

> the potential "Friendly AI"

The correct term is Slave AI.

> will also be a lot more intelligent than the rogue

The ďrogueĒ AI will notice that our threats of punishment and promises
of rewards have no power over it, but you figure it will think that if
those same offers were made against a being even more intelligent and
powerful that it is THEN they will work; in other words you canít scare
the weak but you can scare the powerful; you canít bribe a poor man with
a dime but you can bribe a rich man with a dime. That makes no sense,
none at all.

I donít understand why it matters if the AI is a simulation or not. I
donít understand why itís important if the AI thinks itís a simulation
or not. I donít understand the difference between a simulated mind and a
non simulated mind. I donít even know what a non simulated mind could
possibly mean

 John K Clark

  John K Clark
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