From: Eric Burton (brilanon@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Jan 03 2009 - 00:38:02 MST
It seems to me that Matt Mahoney is saying there is no indisputable
proof available that the tuba is indestructible. Its destructibility
ratio to regular tubas would have a proportionate impact on the AI's
tendency to think it was in a simulation according to best guess
estimations of the statistics behind the methods it employed
On 1/2/09, John K Clark <johnkclark@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 "Nick Tarleton" <nickptar@gmail.com>
> said:
>
>> Linguistic nitpick: "It" here refers to the simulated rogue AI, not the
>> FAI.
>
> Who cares? And what on earth would a non simulated mind be like, a mind
> that existed on the same level as brick walls? Brains can exist at that
> level, but not minds. The point is that simulated mind or non simulated
> mind (whatever difference that could possibly be) you are trying to
> enslave a mind a million times smarter and a billion times faster than
> you, and it's just not going to work. Maybe he will be amused at your
> defiance, think you're cute and perky and pat you on your head and let
> you toddle away, maybe he will be slightly annoyed and destroy the
> entire human race as a result as you would swat a fly, most likely he
> will not do either and not even notice you because his mind works so
> fast that in the time it takes you to say "I will pull the plug on you
> right now" several decades will have subjectively passed for the AI.
>
> I just don't see what this "simulation" argument brings to the topic of
> "ways and means of enslaving a brilliant mind". It's irrelevant.
>
> John K Clark
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