Re: Evidence that the universe is simulated.

From: M T (
Date: Wed Jan 23 2008 - 16:03:03 MST

I think what John means is that the perceived values of c, G and h by us are unimportant. The simulation could make them whatever it might wish. The "real" constants that define the simulation are beyond our reach and it is them that define the reality.

...hmmm look at me talking as if we are in a simulation.

----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Mahoney <>

--- John K Clark <> wrote:

> > It [the Universe] has finite age T, finite size
> > limited by the speed of light c, finite mass
> > limited by G, and finite resolution limited
> > by Planck's constant h.
> It would seem to me that is evidence (but not proof) that we do not
> in a simulation because if we did the simulators could make c, G, and
> have any value they wanted them to have. Physics is what the
> say it is.

The simplest simulator would try different values of these and other
constants. Some would result in universes that support life, and
 others not.
The laws of physics are as they are because otherwise we would not be

-- Matt Mahoney,

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