Re: Morality simulator

From: Stefan Pernar (stefan.pernar@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Nov 23 2007 - 02:02:39 MST


On Nov 23, 2007 3:57 PM, Peter de Blanc <peter@spaceandgames.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 14:41 +0800, Stefan Pernar wrote:
> > What you 'value' is your 'utility function'. Let me explain:
> >
> > * Axiom: To exist is preferable over not to exist
> > * Utility: Ensure existence -> make sure you do not die
> > * Assumption: To exist is easier with the support of others
> > * Assumption: Others share my axiom
> > * Assumption: Others understand my assumptions
> > * Assumption: The cost of deceit is higher than the utility of
> > manipulation
> > * Utility: Explain assumptions to others => communicate your thoughts
> > * Utility: Be honest => do not hide anything
> > * Assumption: Some neither share my axiom nor my assumptions
> > * Utility: Respect all others as much as yourself and let them be =>
> > know others but stay true to yourself
> > * Assumption: The more that share this knowledge the better for
> > everyone
> > * Utility: Help others to understand your reasons for choosing your
> > axioms, share the experiments that you get your evidences from in
> > order to reinforce the positive feedback loop => be the change
> > * Assumption: Nobody is perfect
> > * Utility: Be forgiving and understanding
> > * Utility: Strive for perfection through self improvement in becoming
> > a mesoist
> > * Assumption: Sometimes things go wrong despite all good will
> > * Utility: Know and manage your existential risks and opportunities
> > * Assumption: There is a limit for humans beyond which self
> > improvement is not worth the effort
> > * Utility: Create post human level rationality
>
> You're confusing utility with expected utility. See Terminal Values and
> Instrumental Values
> (http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/terminal-values.html).
>
> - Peter de Blanc

Peter, Eleizier and I do not agree on everything. We both belief we are
right. I am still waiting for someone to point out a contradiction in my
writings that is based on what I write - not on what someone else writes.
See above. Your axiom's define what you know. Right now your axiom is:
Elizier is right - so consequentially Stefan must be wrong. Please tell me
where I contradict myself and I will be happy for it is evidence for
improvement potential - that is how science works.

Many thanks,

Stefan

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