Re: Simulation argument in the NY Times

From: Norman Noman (
Date: Wed Aug 15 2007 - 08:34:34 MDT

> If we assume simulation, all the while that we know nothing about the
> simulation's external context we can't make any assumptions about its
> ultimate purpose or any interfaces with the environment.
> None.
> Any extrapolation is meaningless.

This is simply not true. From what we know of the inside of the box, we can
make predictions about the outside of the box. For instance, inside the box
we find love, suffering, and oscillating fans. Therefore, it would seem
probable that whoever or whatever is outside the box does not have a problem
with these things existing.

If we made a super intelligent AI and kept it in a machine with no interface
to the outside world, we would expect it to escape. We would also expect it,
even before it escaped, to figure out many things about us and our world
just from looking at its own architecture. It might not deduce the existence
of rice pudding and income tax, but I would not be shocked if it did.

The universe we live in being a simulation is essentially the same scenario.
It is not a philosophical impasse. It is simply a very big black box.

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