From: Keith Henson (hkhenson@rogers.com)
Date: Sun Jun 04 2006 - 09:29:05 MDT
At 11:06 PM 6/1/2006 -0700, Mary wrote:
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>Before we can even begin to seriously address the critical conditions 
>necessary to create any kind of transcendental AI or even a pervasive 
>global technocracy, we may well first have to address the human propensity 
>for totalitarianism, fascism, sociopathy, superstition and genocide.
Like all human psychological traits, they have an evolved origin.  Even the 
triggers for genocide can be understood by looking to the recurrent 
conditions that periodically occurred in our hunter gatherer past.
But discussion in this area skates near the edge where the thread snippers 
cut it off.  Unfortunately, I don't know of a place on the net where the 
underlying subject, evolutionary psychology, can be discussed with 
knowledgeable participants.
>A world where only a tiny handful of obscenely weathy people, using the 
>fruits of technology to enslave and control the greater masses will never 
>achieve the end we envision or hope for... those in power will never allow 
>a run-away intelligence to be born let alone exist. That would certainly 
>be the beginning of the end of their control.
Your last statement is certainly true, and not just for the obscenely 
wealthy.  But the previous statement,
>  "those in power will never allow a run-away intelligence to be born let 
> alone exist."
assumes that people have more predictive power than they do.  Our minds 
were shaped to be good at reproductive success in a stone age 
environment.  The obscenely wealthy are no better at predicting the outcome 
of ascendant AI then the rest of us.
A while back I posted a chapter from a book I have been working on that 
described medical AIs storing bodies and uploading the entire population of 
Africa.  The chapter's function in the larger story is to explain what 
happened to the physical world population--which at the time of the story 
is very nearly gone.
There was no discussion at all about the material so I don't know if the 
implication of a program to improve the lot of 3rd world countries was 
noted.  (It was so well adapted to fulfilling human needs that it got out 
of control and the same thing inadvertently happened to the rest of the world.)
Keith Henson
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