Re: testing psi.

From: Giu1i0 Pri5c0 (
Date: Tue Jan 03 2006 - 12:03:40 MST

Scientific methodology says that, if the result of the experiment is
that the apple falls, then the apple falls, and if the result of the
experiment is that the apple does not fall, then the apple does not
Unfortunately in this field (it is not the only one of course) there
is disagreement on what experimental statistics have actually shown
and how future experiments should be designed.
I would be interested in seing some experimental result that actually
proves something one way or another. I can imagine hundreds of
possible scientific mechanisms for psi effects, or in other words
hundreds of possible universes with psi, of course the issue is not
whether I can imagine a universe with psi, but whether psi actually
happens in our universe. I would say to the experts, try to design and
perform more and better experiments.
But I sense some "religious fervor" in both camps that does not seem
too scientific.

On 1/3/06, Damien Broderick <> wrote:
> At 12:41 PM 1/3/2006 -0500, JKC wrote:
> >This is exactly why people like me hold psi researchers in such low
> >regard, they use ideas of people like Robert Anton Wilson as authorities
> >to support their claims and as peers for their
> >"peer reviewed journals".
> This is flabbergasting, John -- or, in your own terms, flabbergasting
> BULLSHIT. Please provide a list of the parapsychologists at the Rhine
> Institute, University of Edinburgh, University of Northampton, University
> of Amsterdam and other established centers of academic parapsychology who
> cite Robert Anton Wilson as an authority. Even three names would be useful
> to test the credibility of your claim. Which of the peer reviewed journals
> in parapsychology have Wilson as one of their referees? (It's barely
> possible, I suppose, but strikes me as extremely unlikely.) As far as I can
> tell, you're just making this up in a fit of bile. Something tells me that
> you've never even *seen* a peer reviewed parapsychology journal if the best
> you can come up with is some trashy book supporting a crackpot like
> Velikovsky (whose ridiculous claims, of course, had nothing at all to do
> with parapsychology).
> Damien Broderick

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