Re: no more lottery talk

From: Russell Wallace (
Date: Sun Jan 01 2006 - 17:43:58 MST

On 1/2/06, Mike Dougherty <> wrote:
> Suppose a system exists in multiple states (ex: psi observed & explained,
> observed & not explained, not observed)
> If that system is affected by each researcher that becomes entangled with
> it, then why can't we say that the involvement of a skeptic actually
> influences the results? Would anyone accept that the only way the research
> is valid is if there are no "non-believers"? This is completely counter to
> the scientific method of testing a theory. Maybe psi is inherently
> undetectable using this methodology.

Postulating the above and following the logic of Wigner's friend, one could
then argue that the skeptics are _right_ not to believe in psi - because in
the universe they live in, it _doesn't_ work.

- Russell

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