Re: The Relevance of Complex Systems [was: Re: Retrenchment]

From: Joel Peter William Pitt (joel.pitt@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Sep 08 2005 - 16:48:56 MDT


On 9/8/05, Phil Goetz <philgoetz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Richard Loosemore <rpwl@lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> > You called it "chaos theory".
> >
> > Chaos theory is not Complex Systems. They are related, but chaos
> > theory
> > has no relevance to AI. I now have no idea what you thought I was
> > talking about all along.
> ...
> >
> > *Complex Adaptive Systems* (aka "Complex Systems")
> >
> > Sometimes they evolve in chaotic ways. In fact, *usually* they
> > evolve in chaotic ways. Not interesting.
>
> Richard isn't contradicting himself.
> In this context, "chaotic" means "random", and doesn't have to do
> with chaos theory. (The behavior referred to as "on the edge of
> chaos" has something to do with chaos theory.)
>
>
As far as I see it, when complex systems exhibit chaotic behaviour they have
everything
to do with chaos theory. The dynamics on the "edge of chaos" or the "onset
of chaos"
have to do with theory and conjecture about phase transitions from order to
chaos - not chaos theory.



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