Re: Terms of debate for Complex Systems Issues

From: Thomas Buckner (
Date: Tue Aug 23 2005 - 15:19:54 MDT

--- Richard Loosemore <> wrote:
> I believe
> Hofstadter later said that
> GEB was filled to the brim with the spirit of
> CS, even though he didn't
> refer to it that way (I can't remember where
> exactly he said this though
> - does anyone have that reference?).

As I recall it, the nearest clear reference, in
which I understood the word 'complex' to be
implicit, was in Hofstadter's assault on Searle's
Chinese Room thought experiment (unless I'm
recalling it from Mind's Eye by Hofstadter and
Hofstadter notes that the most powerful
refutation of Searle is the 'systems reply' which
is mentioned at the above link, and any system
that can (in this example) understand Chinese
must needs be complex; like I said, it's

Tom Buckner

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