RE: The return of the revenge of qualia, part VI.

From: pdugan (
Date: Wed Jul 27 2005 - 23:38:15 MDT

Maybe he means what he means literally. Regardless of the dimensionality of
quantum dynamics on human consciousness, our thoughts are functioning on a
nuero-electric substrate. Therefore, the subjective qualia we experience have
an actual electrical encoding in our wetware, making their reality equal to
that of neuro-electricity.


>===== Original Message From Russell Wallace <> =====
>On 7/27/05, Ben Goertzel <> wrote:
>> Thus, I think that as future science unfolds, even die-hard materialists
>> will have to admit that qualia have at least the same sort of "reality"
>> electrons do.
>A small point: I'll suggest you don't mean the same _sort_ of reality,
>but rather something like the same _degree_? After all, electrons and
>qualia are clearly different _sorts_ of things (from the viewpoint in
>which electrons are real, qualia are emergent phenomena at a vastly
>higher level of organization, like hurricanes and food chains; from
>the viewpoint in which qualia are real, electrons are theoretical
>constructs far removed from experience).
>- Russell

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