Re: "Hostile" transhumans (Re: Magic means large search spaces)

From: Peter de Blanc (
Date: Sat Jul 23 2005 - 19:06:22 MDT

On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 15:57 -0700, Phil Goetz wrote:
> That's not moral, merely selfish. I hope that posthumans
> will have better morals than humans. If you say that's a
> matter of perspective, it means that you don't believe in
> morality at all, and have no grounds to speak in a moral
> debate.

Morality, to me, is a scheme by which a group of agents agree to work
towards a world-state which is (somewhat) desirable to all of them,
rather than individually try to accomplish mutually-exclusive goals. So
morality is a higher-level concept than "goal system."

It sounds to me like you define morality as something else. Can you
please explain this term, and why it should be valued over humanity's

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