Re: Objective versus subjective reality: which is primary?

From: Randall Randall (
Date: Tue Jul 19 2005 - 01:24:52 MDT

On Jul 19, 2005, at 2:26 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote (in an essay):

> [This given] conclusion turns out to be a much more useful one,
> because it explains a lot of phenomena besides mirage lakes.
> Occam's Razor pushes toward the second conclusion, because
> it gives a simple explanation of many different things [...]

and then later...
> Given objective reality as described by modern science, one
> can build up a theory of particles, atoms, molecules, chemical
> compounds, cells, organs (like brains) and organisms -- and
> then one can talk about how brains embodied in bodies embedded
> in societies give rise to individual subjective realities. But
> this is a much longer and more complicated story than the
> emergence of objective reality from subjective reality.
> Occam's-razor-wise, then, "objective reality emerges from
> subjective reality" is a much simpler story than the reverse.

By your own earlier statement, the "objective" explanation
explains so much more that it's preferable, no?

Randall Randall <>
Property law should use #'EQ , not #'EQUAL .

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