RE: Human mind not Turing computable according to Penrose?

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Sun Oct 10 2004 - 06:14:31 MDT

> > Well, he doesn't really believe humans are in principle physically
> > indescribable. He just believes they're indescribable in terms of
> > contemporary physics, and computable physics in general -- but not in
> > terms of the Mystery Physics.
> Should we be describable in Mystery Physics, his argument fails; I could
> hand you a diagonalized description of Ben Goertzel.
> --
> Eliezer S. Yudkowsky

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he *might* say that each
of us is partially but never completely describable in the Mystery Physics.
With more effort, one can generate a more and more complete description of
a human mind, but one can never get to a complete description...

-- Ben

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