From: Randall Randall (email@example.com)
Date: Fri Jul 02 2004 - 20:56:19 MDT
On Jul 2, 2004, at 7:12 PM, Damien Broderick wrote:
> At 06:08 PM 7/2/2004 -0400, Randall Randall wrote:
>>> self sacrifice (not necessarily fatal) is the ultimate pleasure.
>> That's an interesting contortion you're putting the word
>> 'pleasure' through.
> No, it's a penetrating insight (into the motivations of some, not all,
> at some times, not all). Replace the word with `gratification' if you
> must. The reward systems are multiple via extended identification, the
> easing of self-reproach, the attainment of imagined but satisfying
> postmortem joys (joining the honored dead who will praise and love you
> the more), the delight and satisfaction of *doing the right thing*
> even or even especially at *the ultimate cost*... etc.
To me, you appear to be advocating that I replace the
word with "self-interest", which I don't agree is
synonymous with "pleasure".
I don't even agree that "self sacrifice ... is the
ultimate self-interest", though I understand that
some goal systems would result in that.
-- Randall Randall <firstname.lastname@example.org> Property law should use #'EQ , not #'EQUAL .
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