Re: Geddes's 'Moral Perturbation Theory'

From: David Picon Alvarez (
Date: Sat Jun 19 2004 - 09:33:37 MDT

From: "Metaqualia" <>
> > You mean something like putting everyone on heroin? Happiness is a
> and what is wrong with that if it had no side effects? Better to be
> and in anguish, that is natural?

I have no respect for nature in the sense you seem to imply, but my goal
system at this point (with or without good reason) values things such as
knowledge, production and the like higher than it values joy. Joy is, as far
as I'm concerned, merely a motivator for the important stuff to happen.


Very nice. A lot of talk about spirituality and mysticism and drug-induced
highs... If you think that paradise for the sake of paradise is a noble
goal, up to you, I just can't agree. I would much rather be unhappy and know
the secrets of the universe than the reverse. Of course, I would much rather
be happy and know the secrets of the universe... But happiness alone is not
something I find worth seeking.

Again I say: If I am not knowledgeable/smart/good enough to see the truth in
your argument, the collective volition dynamic should find it out sooner or
later (rather sooner, if what you're saying is so evident).


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