From: Mark Waser (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat May 29 2004 - 11:45:00 MDT
> > We just have to take it as an axiom that if
> > something is intelligent then it's conscious.
> I'm not sure. That's a good rule of thumb for humans rightnow, but in
> future there may be highly "intelligent" systems (in some senses of the
> word "intelligence") that both claim and appear not to be conscious.
I think that it's possible to have intelligence without consciousness
but that it's much less likely because being a "seed intelligence" requires
consciousness to have directed improvement. Thus, while I think that it's
possible for an unconscious intelligence to be designed (or, improbably, to
spontaneously evolve), the most likely route to intelligence is through
consciousness (i.e. a self-improving or, more importantly, self-protecting
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