RE: Why do we seek to transcend ourselves?

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Mon Jul 15 2002 - 11:37:09 MDT

Eli, a lot of problems are solved by instinct, but I guess you could
attribute that to intelligence on the species level...

Spiritual traditions teach that faith, clarity-of-mind, etc. -- not
intelligence -- are the solutions to the essential problems of life.

I define "intelligence" as "the ability to achieve complex goals in complex
environments". However, what many spiritual traditions would say is that
the complex goals are not the important ones...

ben g

> Ben Goertzel wrote:
> > This is a clearer verbalization, but it doesn't change the fact
> that this
> > only holds within a certain "philosophy of life", not within
> the philosophy
> > of life held by (most) Zen Buddhists or the average American...
> If that were true I would be completely uninterested. I didn't say that
> I prefer to solve problems with intelligence; I named intelligence as
> the only reason problems are solved when problems are solved for any
> reason other than simple randomness, and that holds whether or not
> people know how to see the forces involved as instances of intelligence.
> If you disagree, I invite you to name a counterexample.
> >>"Intelligence is the means by which problems are solved. Whatever you
> >>want to do, or whatever you think is worth doing, you can do it more
> >>effectively with greater intelligence. Intelligence is an end in itself
> >>and a subgoal of everything else. That's why I care."
> --
> Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
> Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

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