Re: New Term: Apexmind?

From: Brian Atkins (
Date: Mon Oct 08 2001 - 20:13:11 MDT

"Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> On the other hand, I think the term "apexmind" may provoke a negative
> reaction. Humans have a certain instinctive interpretation of hierarchies
> and the things that appear to be living at the top of them, and that is
> precisely *not* what a Sysop (for example) really is. A Sysop is
> substrate, not commander.
> "Apex", to me, connotes "on top". A singleton isn't the one on top of the
> social hierarchy, but is rather the only one on the bottommost layer of
> reality.

Right, not only that, but for me when I hear about a "mind" I automatically
tend to think of something more like myself. It just leads to some nasty
anthropomorphic reactions in most people I would bet. I would prefer to
stay away from any kind of term implying that something is thinking about
and judging and controlling reality- we need to imply something more
"clockwork" like Unix Reality (UR).

> Incidentally, should we maybe be using the term "artificial reality"
> instead of "simulation"? When I think of a "simulated person", I think of
> ultra-advanced nonsentient chatbot wallpaper, not a real person who
> happens to run on programmable superneurons instead of the biological
> kind. In other words, "simulated" to me connotes a different
> implementation, not just the same real thing in a different substrate.

Well artificial rings of being both "not as good as the original" and
"different than the original" for me. What about "emulated reality" (ER)?

Brian Atkins
Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

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