From: Gordon Worley (redbird@mac.com)
Date: Fri Jun 29 2001 - 22:10:17 MDT
At 11:27 PM -0400 6/29/01, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:
>As for the movie itself, I'll give the movie four stars; some judicious
>editing could easily have raised this rating to four and half stars.
>Worth seeing.
Personally, I was bored immensely with the movie and can sum it up in
one word: cute. Even my friend whom I dragged along thought it was
boring, and she's about SL1. Anyway, what follows is my rot13'd mini
analysis of AI. I've submitted this to Slashdot, but they haven't
posted a story about it yet. :-( But, that's Slashdot, and I'll
probably just have to post this as a comment anyway.
Although I must agree with Eliezer, this film is not dangerous at all
the way it seemed like it might be. Although David is done all wrong
as far as how to create AI, Eliezer's correct in that it and the
other meccas act the right way. I give it very few stars. Out of
five, I'd give it maybe two. Certain parts of the film were just
done all wrong, especially the warm, fuzzy ending.
BTW, for those of you reading this and thinking, 'has Gordon
forgotten the folks on this list are SL4, hence the list's name?',
this article was written, in part, to expose the flaws of Classical
AI to the casual Slahsdot reader and encourage the spreading of the
meme of Friendly AI.
Analysis of AI
WARNING: Plot is discussed. This is more of an analysis of aspects
of the movie, not a review. You should probably read this after you
see the film.
NV pna or fhzzrq hc va bar jbeq: phgr. Vs lbh'ir frra RG, lbh'ir
nyernql frra NV, bayl NV vf jbefr orpnhfr vg gevrf gb qb zber, ohg
snvyf. Sbe rknzcyr, jura Qnivq orpbzrf sebmra va vpr, gung jbhyq
unir znqr n snve raqvat; abg gur orfg raqvat, ohg n qrprag bar.
Fcrvyoret, gubhtu, vf abg pbagrag gb yrg gur ivrjre pbafvqre fhpu n
oyrnx, ernyvfgvp sngr, ohg tvirf gur nhqvrapr fbzrguvat gung vf
orlbaq ernfba. Nf V cbvag bhg yngre ba, vg bayl znxrf frafr gung
Qnivq raq, sebmra va vpr sberire, ohg Fcvryoret jnagf n srry tbbq
raqvat gung jvyy xrrc Wbr Nirentr pbzvat onpx sbe zber.
Gur ceboyrzf jvgu gur svyz ernyyl ortva va gur bcravat fprar. Na NV
'fpvragvfg' vf rkcynvavat ubj ur cynaf gb znxr n zber uhzna Zrppn, ol
znxvat vg ybir. Ur oryvrirf gung vs vg pna yrnea gb ybir, gura nyy
bgure uhzna punenpgrevfgvpf jvyy sbyybj. Nfvqr sebz gur fvyyvarff bs
guvf cebcbfvgvba, gur ceboyrz vf gur fnzr ceboyrz Nfvzbi'f obgf unq:
nqirefnevny uhzna nggvghqrf. Gur uhznaf jnag gb znxr gur NV ybir
orpnhfr gurl oryvrir gung jvyy znxr fher gung vg jvyy fgnl va yvar,
abg unez uhznaf, naq fhpu. Fcvryoret, rvgure ol nppvqrag ba checbfr,
qbrfa'g fgngr guvf rkcyvpvgyl, juvpu uvqrf guvf reebe sebz gur fzneg
ohg haqrevasbezrq ivrjre.
Lbh znl or fnlvat, jung'f fb nqirefnevny nobhg xrrcvat NVf sebz
xvyyvat naq jul jbhyq fhpu n guvat or onq. Gur ceboyrz vf gjb
sbyqrq. Ba bar unaq, ab flfgrz lbh gel gb vzcyrzrag vf tbvat gb or
sbby cebbs. Gur NV vf n ybg fznegre guna nal uhzna (be ng yrnfg pna
trg n ybg fznegre) naq pna hfr jung jbhyq ybbx yvxr zntvp gb hf.
Frpbaqyl, ertneqyrff bs fznegarff, gur NV jvyy snpr n cuvybfbcuvpny
pevfrf gung jvyy cebonoyl or gur raq bs vg. Sbe rknzcyr, Qnivq vf
gnhtug gb ybir uhznaf, ohg uhznaf, sebz gur fgneg, qvq abg ybir uvz
ol sbepvat uvz gb ybir engure guna gehfgvat uvz.
OGJ, guvf ybir guvat vf uvf haqbvat. Zhpu yvxr Nfvzbivna obgf gung
orpbzr fghpx va ybtvp ybbcf, Qnivq orpbzrf fghpx va n ybir ybbc. Gur
raq bs gur svyz yrgf uvz bhg bs vg, orpnhfr gung'f gur unccl raqvat,
abg gur bar gung znxrf gur zbfg frafr.
Bxnl, fb vs lbh pna'g or nqirefnevny naq ynl qbja fbzr Nfvzbivna ynjf
be fbzrguvat, jung pna lbh qb. Lbh pna perngr Sevraqyl NV. Gurer vf
dhvgr n ybg jevggra nobhg guvf gbcvp, ohg gur orfg cynpr gb fgneg vf
<n uers="uggc://fvatvafg.bet/sevraqyl/jungvf.ugzy">urer</n>. Cyrnfr,
pyvpx guvf yvax; qba'g whfg cbfg yvxr na vqvbg gung V unir ab pyhr
nobhg NV. Sbe znal bs lbh, guvf jvyy nyfb qvfcry zlguf nobhg
Pynffvpny NV naq yrnq lbh gb arj vqrnf. Whfg va pnfr lbh zvffrq vg,
lbh pna yrnea nobhg <n
uers="uggc://fvatvafg.bet/sevraqyl/jungvf.ugzy">Sevraqyl NV urer</n>.
Abj, V qvq zragvba gung gur zbivr jnf phgr, juvpu zrnaf vg unf fbzr
vagrerfgvat cnegf. Sbe rknzcyr, Qe. Xabj jnf na vagrerfgvat
vasbezngvba ergevriny flfgrz, gubhtu cerggl qhzo pbafvqrevat gurl
pbhyq perngr Qnivq naq Tbbtyr tvirf onpx orggre vasb. Nyfb, gur
Genafuhznaf ng gur raq bs gur svyz ybbx pbby, ohg npg sne gbb zhpu
yvxr uhznaf. OGJ, gung'f Wbr ng gur raq bs gur svyz jub gnyxf gb
Qnivq, abg na nyvra. Zl sevraq jub jrag jvgu zr gb gur zbivr frrzrq
n ovg pbashfrq nobhg guvf, ohg ubcrshyyl fur'yy trg vg yngre.
Sbe gubfr jub lbh jub unir ernq '<n
uers="uggc://ubgjverq.ylpbf.pbz/pbyyrpgvbaf/ebobgf_nv/5.01_fhcre_gblf1.ugzy">Fhcre
Gblf Ynfg Nyy Fhzzre</n>', gur fubeg fgbel guvf svyz vf onfrq ba,
lbh'yy abgvpr jura gur fgbel raqf naq gur svyz ortvaf, naq ng gung
cbvag gur cybg fuvsgf gb n qvssrerag fgbel: Cvaabpuvb. Gur
cnenyyryf ner nyzbfg rzoneenffvat. Nyfb, gurer vf n uvag bs Jvmneq
bs Bm va gurer (guvax nobhg jung vf fnvq nobhg Qe. Xabj ng gur raq
naq lbh'yy trg vg). Gurer ner cebonoyl zber, ohg V unira'g pnhtug
gurz lrg.
Fb, gb fhz hc, vf guvf na FS pynffvp: ab. Qbrf vg znxr lbh guvax:
bayl vs lbh qba'g xabj jung NV vf. Vf guvf n phgr fhzzre zbivr gb
gnxr Tenaqzn, gur xvqf, naq Syhssl gur qbt gb: lrf. Be, qb yvxr zr
naq gnxr n qngr; lbh'yy unir zber sha (rira vs lbh'er obgu fzneg naq
frr ceboyrzf jvgu gur zbivr)! ;-)
-- Gordon Worley http://www.crosswinds.net/~orla_redbird/ mailto:redbird@mac.com PGP: 0xBBD3B003
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