-----Original Message----- From: owner-sl4@sysopmind.com [mailto:owner-sl4@sysopmind.com]On Behalf Of Brian Atkins Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 9:07 PM To: sl4@sysopmind.com Subject: Re: Ben's "Extropian Creed" Samantha Atkins wrote: > > Humans will either transform or perish. > brian: You still didn't read Diaspora did you? I don't see any reason that the humans who want to can't stay on Earth and just keep living the same way after the Singularity. Probably be a lot less of them around though, at least for a while. The sysop can keep them from killing themselves off. Might be interesting to see how far strictly human minds will be able to develop technology. -- samantha: Of course I read Diaspora. Of course some humans can choose not to transform. But unless the species has the ability to transform, and especially vastly increased intellectual abilities, humanity will not survive its current and increasing challenges. Or it will for a time but will degenerate quickly. When I say humans must transform or perish I am not subscribing for every single individual but for the capabilities of the species. Perhaps this is the confusion? Diaspora contains the ultimate transformation of humanity as a species. That leaves enough room for lots of different types of individual and group choices but certainly does not dispute my point. Sorry if it was unclear. - samantha