Re: [sl4] JKC, are your views actually amenable to correction, ever?

From: Robin Lee Powell (rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org)
Date: Tue Dec 01 2009 - 14:33:23 MST

http://xkcd.com/386/

Also, since we're on SL4, I worry about potential SIAI donors being
driven away by something that has no formal validity whatsoever.
(Hint: Turing'formulation of the halting problem is a *mathematical
proof*; if you say something follows from it, you should be able to
make a mathematical proof of it).

-Robin

On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:26:39PM -0500, Luke wrote:
> Nerds, all of us. �Why do you want to change JKC's mind? �- Luke
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>
> I don't have any evidence, yet, that he's actually a *liar*. �If he
> asserted, in clear plain English, that he seriously meant that he'd
> alter his views if I found 42 CS Ph.D.s to say this (which is only a
> matter of finding 42 of them in the first place, after all), I might
> actually bother, just for my own amusement.
> -Robin
> On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:22:32PM -0500, Bradley Thomas wrote:
> > >Since that's the Guide number, I have to ask if you're being flippant
> > before I put in that kind of work.
> >
> > How would you even know that he wasn't being flippant in any denial of
> being
> > flippant!?
> >
> > Brad Thomas
> > [2]www.bradleythomas.com
> > Twitter @bradleymthomas, @instansa
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [3]owner-sl4@sl4.org [mailto:[4]owner-sl4@sl4.org] On Behalf Of
> Robin Lee
> > Powell
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:15 PM
> > To: [5]sl4@sl4.org
> > Subject: Re: [sl4] JKC, are your views actually amenable to
> correction,
> > ever?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 12:07:24PM -0800, John K Clark wrote:
> > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 "Robin Lee Powell"
> <[6]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > How many computer science Ph.D.s would I have to get to say, in
> > > > writing, that that's utter nonsense for you to thoroughly
> > > > re-evaluate your position?
> > >
> > > 42
> >
> > Since that's the Guide number, I have to ask if you're being flippant
> before
> > I put in that kind of work.
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> > --
> > They say: �"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
> And I'm
> > thinking: �"Does it even occur to you to try for something other �than
> �the
> > default �outcome?" �See [7]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > [8]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
> [9]http://www.lojban.org/
> >
>
> --
> They say: �"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
> And I'm �thinking: �"Does it even occur to you to try for something
> other �than �the default �outcome?" �See [10]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> [11]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
> [12]http://www.lojban.org/
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> 2. http://www.bradleythomas.com/
> 3. mailto:owner-sl4@sl4.org
> 4. mailto:owner-sl4@sl4.org
> 5. mailto:sl4@sl4.org
> 6. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> 7. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> 8. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> 9. http://www.lojban.org/
> 10. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> 11. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> 12. http://www.lojban.org/ 

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm  thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other  than  the default  outcome?"  See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/

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