Re: [sl4] Re: goals of AI... non physical components of mind != soul

From: Stathis Papaioannou (
Date: Wed Nov 25 2009 - 16:51:31 MST

2009/11/26 Matt Paul <>:
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <> wrote:
>> How do you figure that quantum phenomena are "non physical" when they
>> are the basis of all physics? Also, quantum computers don't actually
>> do anything that classical computers don't do, such as computing
>> non-computable functions.
> Ok, I see a problem arising here. I used the term "non-physical" and I think
> that I should clarify that this is because I struggle to find another term
> for it. I don't think it is the best term and I hope we don't get too hung
> up on it. By non-physical I am trying to label that which is real but cannot
> currently be measured or detected.

Quantum phenomena can be measured, detected and simulated on a
computer. It is possible that the brain incorporates exotic
non-computable physics, for example as claimed by Roger Penrose, but
there is no evidence for this and no reason to believe it.

Stathis Papaioannou

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