From: Mike Dougherty (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed Mar 04 2009 - 20:33:21 MST
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <email@example.com>wrote:
> Before you toss the coin what should your expectation of tails be?
> Would it be any different in a single world versus many worlds
Why do you think you should have an expectation at all? By the time we
raise this coin toss to the abstraction where cosmology has any relevance to
the outcome, I wonder if we should also call into question a priori
knowledge of coin toss or observation memory or every/any damned thing.
With no experience of a coin toss, you can't even assume the outcome is only
heads or tails - it could disappear via slight of hand, it could turn into a
dozen pigeons, it could explode. Your first observation of a coin toss may
likely be so fascinating that you marvel at the trajectory of the object and
the sound of its impact - ignoring the orientation of it faces. If we're
discussing robots easily capable of reproducing the "flip" action, the
result may always be heads due to a carefully controlled application of
forces. Would this observation that the particular flip action results with
100% reproducible outcome indicate anything fundamental about probability?
Is this a completely deterministic cosmology? Oh, so the "flip" needs to be
more 'random' - so where does this randomness come from? It gets computed?
By what mechanism? I propose angels/demons vie for control of the coin's
yin/yang energies and stuff happens below the threshold of observation and
eventually the result becomes known. Simple as that.
Perhaps I've read too many "coin flip" threads. Seems there is a
correlation between this and the wax and wane of personal identity
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