Re: [sl4] FAI development within academia.

From: Roko Mijic (
Date: Sun Mar 01 2009 - 09:29:33 MST

2009/3/1 Matt Mahoney <>:
> --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Roko Mijic <> wrote:
>> Today there are about 100 people in the world working
>> on AGI in a vaguely serious way, as far as I can tell,
> That's if you don't count Google, which is slowly developing AGI but not calling it that, and the semiconductor industry, which is building the computers needed to implement AGI, and the billions of people posting information to the internet, which is providing the knowledge base that AGI will ultimately use to make it work.
> In case you haven't noticed, the internet is gradually getting smarter. We have trouble defining what "smarter" means, but as long as we insist on defining it as "more like a human" then we will be left behind by a singularity seemingly without ever achieving AGI.

I'm intrigued by this point of view, though I currently don't place
much credence upon it.

Can you make precise what you mean by "the Internet is getting
smarter, ... we have trouble defining what smarter means"
 - presumably if you don't know what smarter means, then you can't
claim that the Internet is getting it...

I take my definition of intelligence to be "the ability to achieve
goals in environments". According to this definition, the Internet has
no intelligence, because it is not an agent and hence cannot achieve
any goals in any environments.

It is the case that the WWW contains a lot of knowledge, such as
wikipedia, google books, etc. But knowledge alone is not intelligence
- would you consider a very big library to be intelligent? Would it
worry you that adding more and more books to a large library might
cause the Singularity?

I realize I could be wrong here.

> -- Matt Mahoney,

Roko Mijic
MSc by Research
University of Edinburgh

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