Re: [sl4] giant planets ignation - one more existential risk

From: Alexei Turchin (alexeiturchin@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Dec 13 2008 - 15:55:59 MST


Dear John!

Don''t believe in your knowleges! Use google!
US goverment think that Pu-238 may have critical mass:

"Updated Critical Mass Estimates for Plutonium-238"
http://sti.srs.gov/fulltext/ms9900313/ms9900313.html

The fact that the gase in Jupiter is degenerated is not important for
the rest of my discussion, because 1979 article already stated minimum
levels of concentration of deiterium need for reaction.

On 12/13/08, John K Clark <johnkclark@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Alexei Turchin <alexeiturchin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Plutonium 238 which under some assumptions
> > could lead to a chain reaction and a nuclear explosion.
>
> What assumptions? Plutonium 238 doesn't even produce neutrons, it
> produced Alpha Particles (Helium), how on earth (or Saturn) are you
> going to make a chain reaction from Alpha Particles?! Plutonium 239 can
> make a bomb but not 238, and nobody puts Plutonium 239 in space probes.
> And if all you needed to do to get a fusion reaction going is get a
> bunch of Deuterium together we would have had practical fusion reactors
> a long time ago.
>
> And you say that in the center of a gas giant planet matter is in a
> degenerate state just like it is in a White Dwarf star; and that is also
> Bullshit. Compared to a White Dwarf the center of Jupiter is a pretty
> good vacuum and it's cold as hell too.
>
> You're right that people think the idea is ridiculous, and there is a
> reason for that.
>
> John K Clark
>
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> John K Clark
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>
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