Re: [sl4] Uploading into a deterministic sim vs Many worlds

From: William Pearson (
Date: Mon Oct 27 2008 - 04:00:36 MDT

2008/10/27 Stathis Papaioannou <>:
> 2008/10/27 William Pearson <>:
>> 2008/10/26 Stathis Papaioannou <>:
>>> 2008/10/27 William Pearson <>:
>>>> Let us say you believe in many worlds and you had been offered the
>>>> chance to upload into a deterministic simulation to live forever, any
>>>> quantum randomness would be generated by PRNG. It would be so good,
>>>> you wouldn't know you had been uploaded. Assuming you value the lives
>>>> of people you will never encounter, should you upload?
>>> Personally, I don't think of the loss of potential people as a real
>>> loss. I only worry about already existing people who can anticipate
>>> their own death.
>> I don't think infants and toddlers can anticipate their deaths... they
>> may not like pain but they have to learn about death itself later on.
>> Care to refine your position?
> In an unsophisticated way, infants and animals can anticipate their
> deaths, since they formulate desires and plans, which would be
> thwarted if they die. This can't be said for organisms without nervous
> systems, nor for potential organisms that might never be realised.

Would you say it was rational to take a treatment to extend your life
by 20 years, if it made you sterile and if female incapable of having
IVF? Assuming you weren't sure about the singularity/massive
improvements in reproductive tech happening before you died.

Not counting potential people at all, seems like a possible recipe for


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