Re: More silly but friendly ideas

From: Vladimir Nesov (
Date: Tue Jun 10 2008 - 07:10:13 MDT

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <> wrote:
> There is no objective ethics, aesthetics or aim of life that can be
> deduced without reference to axioms which are themselves ultimately
> arbitrary; or equivalently, an AI cannot arrive at ethics, aesthetics
> or purpose without having such arbitrary axioms as givens in its
> initial programming. Historically, many people have found this fact
> uncomfortable, and therefore have invented a God in whom these
> ultimate axioms are invested (which of course only defers the problem,
> noted as far back as Plato's Euthyphro).

Ethincs is too nuanced to say that it can be defined by "axioms".
Although technically it's probably what you meant, you need to include
much of the evolved brain structure and some of the culture to extract
adequate approximation of human ethics.

Vladimir Nesov

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