Re: Mindless Thought Experiments

From: John K Clark (
Date: Mon Mar 03 2008 - 09:43:33 MST

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:06:01 -0500, "Nick Tarleton" <>

> there should be an objective fact of the matter as to
> whether some physical system is having conscious
> experiences; but if computation is sufficient for
> experience, since what a physical system is computing
> is subjective, this can't be the case.

Computing is not subjective but consciousness certainly is. You want
objective proof of subjectivity, but then it wouldnít be subjective, it
would be objective. The reason this matter has caused so much confusion
is that the questions that are asked make no sense so itís not much of a
surprise if the answers donít either.

 John K Clark

  John K Clark
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