Re: When something impossible happens

From: M T (
Date: Tue Jan 22 2008 - 17:23:36 MST

You are implying that the subjective pain of all life might not be important.


----- Original Message ----
From: "Murphy, Tommy" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January, 2008 10:47:29 PM
Subject: RE: When something impossible happens

Given that morality arises from/changes with intelligence, I fail to
how you can predict your own post-singularity morality.
I certainly couldn't have pictured myself writing that last sentence if
you'd asked me when I was 3.

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Robin
Lee Powell
Sent: January 22, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: When something impossible happens

On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 04:59:08PM -0500, Randall Randall wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 03:23:18PM -0500, Murphy, Tommy wrote:
>>> To my understanding the odds of this being a simulation are
>>> overwhelmingly high, so I'd be fascinated to see you expand on
>> Only if you accept certain assumptions that I, for one, do not.
>> In particular, you have to accept that future civilizations will run
>> ancestor simulations. I find it ridiculous that a civilization that
>> advanced would allow simulation of the kind of suffering that goes

>> here on earth every day. In fact, I'd expect that any reasonable
>> culture would have something equivalent to the death penalty for

>> actions.
> The idea that in a future civilization something done entirely with
> private computing could be disallowed implies a crippling lack

> for individuals in said civilization.

Yep. Not seeing a problem here. Certainly if I lived in a
without such rules and I found you were doing such things with your
private computing, I'd hunt you down and kill you, regardless of the
consequences to myself. It's a clear cut issue of basic morality to


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