From: Robin Gane-McCalla (robinganemccalla@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 04 2008 - 00:53:32 MST
Does anybody think that psychedelics might be the drug that acts
randomly upon intelligence, either increasing it or decreasing it?
Some people go crazy and others have great insights.
On Jan 3, 2008 11:29 PM, Anthony Tross <tonytross@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that Shulgin and his wife are undoubtedly brave psychonauts and
> should be greatly thanked for their tireless efforts. As well, I don't think
> that there is any question that triptamines, ergotamines, and various other
> neuroactive substances are in some way responsible for our ability to be
> insightful. It is widely accepted that psychedelics can precipitate
> synesthesic states, and must have contributed intrinsically to our sense of
> beauty. I imagine that we would still be unicameral (biblically, please!)
> were it not for drugs, fire, and so language.
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> Nootropics are an entirely different kettle of brain-bath goodies, primarily
> intended for optimal function in the present, and perhaps after the results
> of longitudinal studies are tallied, valuable in neuroprotection as we age.
> With computed intelligence we don't have to worry about ageing, as such, but
> must consider instilling psychedelic or, more accurately, standalone
> algorithmic creativity that runs as a complementary process.
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> On Jan 2, 2008 11:59 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 03/01/2008, Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > The Shulgin phikal story seems to be an excellent example. From what I
> > > can tell, Shulgin became a biochemist and started experimenting with
> > > nootropics in the 1970s, meticulously recording experiences and results
> > > starting with the smallest of dosages of each of his synthesized
> > > compounds. Frankly, you have to be smart to not kill yourself.
> > > Nootropical experimentalism is *not* for everyone.
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> > Mostly hallucinogens and stimulants rather than what is commonly
> > referred to as nootropics. It's an almost unique example of
> > systematic, rigorous research and self-experimentation in
> > psychopharmacology. Predictably, Shulgin was prosecuted by the US DEA
> > for his efforts.
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> > Stathis Papaioannou
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