Re: Morality simulator

From: Joshua Fox (
Date: Mon Nov 12 2007 - 00:09:16 MST

Jef Allbright wrote:
>'s not about testing and refining for a particular desired outcome, but
> testing and refining the essentially scientific model ...

> > ..You would use various simulated worlds, ...
> I'm afraid you've begun to over-simplify.
Yes, all models simplify. I am describing the highly simplified
simulated worlds just to show that it is feasible to get started, but
I'd be delighted to see this get more complex.

> Any closed-form representation of morality is a recipe for failure in an evolving context.
Again, I'm suggesting the closed-form function only for a start, and
will be glad to see more sophisticated approaches.

> This gives rise to some well-known paradoxes of utilitarian ethical theory,
Great! I'd love to see paradoxes played out in a simulation. Already,
philosophers play out such scenarios as thought experiments, modeling
the world in their minds -- I am suggesting that the simulation be
done in a computer.

> what we really need is a model of their latent **values**, and the moral function will emerge ...
Yes, that could be a good way to do it.


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