Re: What best evidence for fast AI?

From: Vladimir Nesov (
Date: Sat Nov 10 2007 - 14:44:41 MST

Point of this hypothetical case is that you supposedly can't implement
'intelligence' thing within physics (no physical device will be able
to implement that measurable interface), so you need this soul thing
that exerts external influence from device outside the matrix that is
able to implement said interface.

On 11/10/07, J. Andrew Rogers <> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Алексей Турчин wrote:
> > The only way we can proove that AI is really impossible - is to
> > show that intelligense requiers 'black box' soul.
> Not really. To show that intelligence requires a soul, you would
> have to define 'soul' well enough that we could theoretically
> implement it on conventional hardware. Whether or not it is a 'black
> box' is immaterial; we do not need to know what is going on inside,
> just how it behaves at the interface in relation to the state that is
> measurable.
> J. Andrew Rogers

Vladimir Nesov                  

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