Re[2]: Is SETI dangerous?

From: Алексей Турчин (
Date: Wed Sep 26 2007 - 11:38:18 MDT

*And as explained in previous paragraph, this force has no
*incentive to leave anything alive.


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From: "Vladimir Nesov" <>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:49:29 +0400
Subject: Re: Is SETI dangerous?

> I can't see why 'observe the natural phenomenon' choice should be
> interesting for post-AGI civilization. From its POV, natural phenomena are
> just computational processes that happen to be running on the same physical
> substrate. If they are capable of simulating similar processes is more
> time/energy-efficient manner, expected utility of ordinary matter should be
> less than that of whatever virtual substrate they can explore. So priority
> of exploring virtual worlds of their own design should be higher; the only
> interest they can take in natural world is information they can obtain
> within relatively low cost, like stumbling upon something interesting by
> casual observation of their surroundings. And what they can find is just
> that - information - and as it's arbitrary, they don't have any reason to
> want to perceive it precisely, so they can just take a snapshot of whatever
> natural life they find and explore it further within a virtual simulation.
> On the other hand, existence of life in real-world-neighborhood has
> potentially lethal consequences, as physical world isn't designed to have
> impenetrable firewalls in it, and minimally intelligent AGI should be able
> to harvest enough mass to break whatever it likes, with its power in the
> universe growing exponentially. This process can only be opposed by
> preemptive seizure of power, that is expansion of replicators throughout the
> universe. And as explained in previous paragraph, this force has no
> incentive to leave anything alive.
> --
> Vladimir Nesov

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