Re: Transcension (in fiction) before Vinge's Singularity

From: Jef Allbright (
Date: Sun Sep 16 2007 - 16:02:33 MDT

On 9/16/07, Damien Broderick <> wrote:
> At 12:05 AM 9/16/2007 -0700, Kevin Peterson wrote:
> >That story stuck in my head as well, not the implication of
> >transcending in the back story, rather for the queen's claim that
> >"intelligence is not a survival trait". It wasn't crucial to the
> >story, but it is difficult to argue against.
> It's displayed impressively in Peter Watts' novel BLINDSIGHT, which
> is strongly recommended.

In that story, I think it was self-awareness, rather than
intelligence, that was presented as non-essential to survival.
Misleading, since the element of self is critically important to
intelligence, just not necessarily at the level of the individual

I enjoyed the book, but for me the key message throughout had to do
with empathy being a function of effective modeling of the internal
state of another, regardless of any basis in similarity.

- Jef

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