Re: ESSAY: How to deter a rogue AI by using your first-mover advantage

From: Stathis Papaioannou (
Date: Fri Aug 24 2007 - 07:36:56 MDT

On 24/08/07, Norman Noman <> wrote:

> > > This just isn't true. We can predict what is inside boxes, and we can
> > > predict what is outside boxes. However hard it is, there is nothing that
> > > makes it impossible. The situation is not a special case.
> >
> > You can make some guess in the case of the box from its size, shape,
> > history etc. You can't predict what is inside a box drawn at random
> > from the set of all possible boxes.
> Drawing a box at random from the set of all possible boxes requires the
> axiom of choice, so you perhaps can't even do that. Anyway, what makes you
> think the world outside our box was drawn at random from the set of all
> possible outsides? That strikes me as crazy and baseless.

There is a temptation to guess that the outside bears some
relationship to the inside, but there is no basis for this. Is there
any way to know what is "outside" the universe, in the event that
there is such a thing?

Stathis Papaioannou

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