From: Tom McCabe (rocketjet314@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Aug 16 2007 - 11:17:52 MDT
--- Dagon Gmail <dagonweb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It very much depends on the country. The
> Netherlands has about as
> > many muslims as the US as a percentage of the
> population. For
> > countries like France, it is quite a bit more than
> the US.
> >
> > On the other hand, in the US the Islamic community
> is not prone to
> > acts religious murder (see: Theo Van Gogh in the
> Netherlands) nor
> > religious riots and violence (see: newspaper
> editorial cartoon in
> > Denmark) nor prone to large-scale fermentation of
> Islamic malcontents
> > (see: France). Hell, even the 9/11 disaster
> required importing
> > Islamic malcontents from the far side of the
> Atlantic. All the US
> > really has that is similar is fringe Christians,
> and those
> > individuals are rarely prone to newsworthy
> violence in practice.
>
> Ludicrous. One very vocal commentator gets killed in
> several years. In the
> same years about twenty times as many people are
> killed my lightning
> strikes. This is a complete non-issue, despite the
> detail I wrote with Theo
> before his death. In the same five years the number
> of people shot in
> maffia style executions in the netherlands alone is
> probably more than
> 100, including innocent bystanders. Yet where is the
> media concern
> about that?
>
> Might be the same old panic mongering or xenophobia.
>
> http://www.alternet.org/story/57001
>
> And regarding those fringe Christians, those types
> are known widely for
> assassinations in and bombings of abortion clinics.
> Sometimes they even
> make mistakes and bomb clinics with no abortion in
> sight, and afterwards
> they say oops in court. However those are not
> regarded as terrorists,
> despite in some cases loudly calling for another
> 911, to "make people
> come to their senses", or "to bring closer
> armageddon".
I don't see what the heck this has to do with the
Singularity.
> > What does robotics have to do with the
> Singularity? Nothing that I
> > can see. The Singularity will almost certainly
> start in the US, on
> > the simple basis that it has an immense,
> established, and relatively
> > efficient infrastructure for doing this kind of
> research and
> > development that no other entity can currently
> compete with. This is
> > a matter of simple odds.
>
> The singularity is based on robotics.
No, it is not. Please read
http://www.intelligence.org/overview/whatisthesingularity
and http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=42.
> Robotics in
> Japan is based on providing
> care for the elderly, or as replacement/assistive
> construction workers.
> Last time I checked robotics required AI and AI was
> well, the prime
> requirement for a singularity occurring. I see a lot
> of articles on productive
> robotics/AI research.
The "AI" that most people talk about is as different
from Singularity-causing AI as an amoeba is from you.
> *sighs heavily*
>
> > > America is losing the edge and
> > > chances are we will see a USSR-style collapse in
> the US a lot
> > > sooner than
> > > most people anticipate. Maybe within 10 years.
>
> > While the US may be losing its advantage in
> certain relative terms,
> > it still has an *enormous* advantage in practice.
> It is still the
> > high-tech entrepreneurial capital of the human
> universe for the
> > foreseeable future. By the time this changes in a
> significant way, I
> > would expect that we are way past the Sell By date
> on the Singularity.
> >
> > The idea that the US will undergo a "USSR-style
> collapse" within 10
> > years is so out of touch with reality that it
> almost does not even
> > deserve comment. I think some trends in the US
> are bad, but even
> > then it is more a case of the US doing its level
> best to match some
> > of the existing poorer qualities of European
> governance.
>
> So, who *is* The US comptroller general David
> Walker?
> Probably a nobody. Or a democrat.
>
>
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Senior_US_official_likens_challenges_facing_0814.html
>
> Tell me, do you watch Fox?
>
Contemporary politics is not SL4.
- Tom
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