Re: Anders Sandberg in Second Life on converging cognitive enhancement, uvvy island in SL, May 23 2007 10am PST

From: Giu1i0 Pri5c0 (
Date: Sat May 12 2007 - 04:45:32 MDT

Well, the three technologies that you quote are integrable in SL thru
external gateways at this moment, and will become fully integrated in
the platform soon. Spatial voice chat is in the new beta client, works
very well and will be in the release client in a few weeks. IRC is
available thru SLchat <-> IRC gateways and often used by people who
wish to participate in our chats without being in SL. It will also be
available natively when Sl switch from their proprietary chat system
to one compatible with open standards including IRC.

My company may get some funding to develop an adaptation of webinars
to SL, but i think we can do something *much* better than conventional

We should bear in mind that the metaverse today is like the 2D web in
1992. At that time I was a Compuserve user very frustrated by being
unable to send email to AOL users and viceversa. Things have
progressed a lot since then. I am sure the 3D/VR metaverse of 2012
(which probably will be based on interoperable technologies and will
not be called Second Life) will be really cool. Of course, in 2012 we
will be complaining that it does not do this and that, and technology
will continue to evolve.


On 5/12/07, <> wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:08:37PM -0700, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >My analogy is lost, but Second Life still sucks. There have for years been
> > >more accessible and efficient methods for an online seminar.
> >
> > Name them.
> >
> > --
> > Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
> > Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
> It hasn't been difficult in years to use the internet to talk to a lot of
> people at one time. I agree that Second Life is the most complete tool
> around at what it does, but I don't think what it does is all-important or
> well-executed.
> The psychological aspects of walking around a big shared mutable 3D
> landscape are great, but I hesitate to believe they're especially
> conducive to a lecture or conversation. That Second Life as a piece of
> software just isn't very good at being a big shared mutable 3D landscape
> is my larger problem besides.

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