Re: the end of fermi's paradox?

From: Chris Petersen (
Date: Thu Jan 04 2007 - 19:51:11 MST

With a point that vulnerable, who needs more than one? :)

In a community of minds, there may be competition for resources, both
comptronium and sunlight. The first mind(seed) with a nanofac to reach a
new star system would have first option on its resources, and thus, might
gain for itself more processing power than it would be likely to attain in
its home system.

Or are we still missing something?


On 1/4/07, Philip Goetz <> wrote:
> The only vulnerable point that I see to this argument is the
> supposition that ET needs to bring the energy back to his starting
> point. I'm assuming that ET at home does not feel especially
> benevolent, and wants the benefit of that sun's energy for himself.
> I'm also assuming that ET is part of a relatively large computational
> entity, and that sending out an ET would amount to making a copy of ET
> and putting it on a spaceship.
> You might argue that ET would be altruistic enough to let the copy of
> ET stay out by the sun and use its energy there. You might further
> argue that we should then consider the travelling ET's subjective
> time, which will be very small, since it will travel near the speed of
> light.
> I don't think that a stay-at-home ET would evaluate its return on
> investment from the point of view of the travelling ET. I might
> consider than an ET that planned to pull up stakes and travel itself,
> might consider the time to be that experienced on the voyage.
> - Phil

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