Re: the end of fermi's paradox?

From: John K Clark (
Date: Thu Jan 04 2007 - 11:28:04 MST

"Philip Goetz" <>

> An ET with a tech equivalent to Earth 200 years from now [.]

200 years? That's just an instant, why not 200 million years, or 2 billion,
the universe is a very old place.

> would probably live in a society in which time and energy were both very,
> very valuable relative to their value to us.

If energy is so valuable why does ET let the energy from billions of suns in
our galaxy radiate uselessly into empty space? One Von Newman Probe sent to
just one other sun would cost pocked change for an advanced civilization, to
suggest that not one individual in one of those civilizations bothered to do
so even on a whim is simply not credible. Even if the probe moved no faster
than the rockets of today (a ridiculously conservative idea) it could
engineer the entire Galaxy in less than 50 million years, the blink of an
eye. But we do not see an engineered Galaxy; I think I have a pretty good
idea why and I don't think you do.

  John K Clark

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