From: Bruce J. Klein (bruce@novamente.net)
Date: Sun Feb 19 2006 - 02:40:44 MST
Hoping to facilitate discussions, here
is the AGIRI compiled list of various
AGI System-Building Projects:
http://www.agiri.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=44
The list is "semi-comprehensive" so that
you should feel comfortable in making
suggestions for additions/subtractions.
Bruce
Ben Goertzel wrote:
> In fact I know of a number of individuals/groups in addition to myself
> who fall into this category (significant progress made toward
> realizing a software implementation whose design has apparent AGI
> potential), though I'm not sure which of them are list members.
>
> In addition to my Novamente project (www.novamente.net), I would
> mention Steve Omohundro
>
> http://home.att.net/~om3/selfawaresystems.html
>
> (who is working on a self-modifying AI system using his own variant of
> Bayesian learning) and James Rogers with his
> algorithmic-information-theory related AGI design (James is a list
> member, but his work has been kept sufficiently proprietary that I
> can't say much about it). There are many others as well...
>
> Based on crude considerations, it would seem SIAI is nowhere near the
> most advanced group on the path toward an AGI implementation. On the
> other hand, it's of course possible that those of us who are "further
> along" all have wrong ideas (though I doubt it!) and SIAI will come up
> with the right idea in 2008 or whenever and then proceed rapidly
> toward the end goal.
>
> ben
> ben
>
> On 2/14/06, pdugan <pdugan@vt.edu> wrote:
>
>>There is a certain list member who already has an AGI model more than half
>>implemented, making it a few years from testablility to see if it classifies
>>as a genuine AGI, and if so then maybe another half a decade before something
>>like recursive self-improvement becomes possible.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>>===== Original Message From P K <kpete1@hotmail.com> =====
>>>
>>>>Yes, I know that they are working on _Friendly_ GAI. But my question is:
>>>>What reason is there to think that the Institute has any real chance of
>>>>winning the race to General Artificial Intelligence of any sort, beating
>>>>out those thousands of very smart GAI researchers?
>>>>
>>>
>>>There is no particular reason(s) I can think of that make the Institute more
>>>likely to develop AGI than any other organization with skilled developers.
>>>It's all a fog. The only way to see if their ideas have any merit is to try
>>>them out. Also, I suspect their donations would increase if they showed some
>>>proofs of concept. It's all speculative at this point.
>>>
>>>As for predicting success or failure, the best calibrated answer is to
>>>predict failure to anyone attempting to build a GAI. You would be right most
>>>of the time and wrong probably only once or right all the time (o dear,
>>>heresy).
>>>
>>>That doesn't mean it isn't worth trying. By analogy, think of AGI developers
>>>as individual sperm trying to reach the egg. The odds of any individual are
>>>incredibly small but the reward is so good it would be a shame not to try.
>>>Also, FAI has to be developed only once for all to benefit.
>>>
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